Outlaw Wisdom: Discussions About Life, Love and Everything In-Between
An original podcast devoted to the underdog and hosted by Drew Glick (author of the book series, The WheelHouse). Join Drew goes as he goes toe-to-toe with special guests, influencers, actors, authors and fellow Outlaws, and shares stories of tragedy, triumph, loss, grief, redemption and success. Drew will take his listeners on a one-of-a-kind journey that will motivate, inspire any prove that anything is possible as long as you believe it is.
Outlaw Wisdom: Discussions About Life, Love and Everything In-Between
Interview with Sara Quiriconi, Actor, Writer and Entrepeneur
What happens when you strip away society's rulebook and start living authentically? Sara Quiriconi joins Outlaw Wisdom to reveal her fascinating journey from corporate checkbox-checker to actor, writer, and entrepreneur.
"I started to check those boxes off and realized how lost I was from who I really am," Sara shares, describing the moment she recognized she was living someone else's definition of success. This awakening led her to unravel the carefully constructed façade and embark on a path of self-discovery that transformed her career and personal life.
Sara's insights on acting are particularly valuable for anyone considering the profession. She emphasizes self-knowledge as the foundation for success: "Know who you are the best you can. The better you know yourself, the better you can make wiser decisions and choices." This wisdom extends beyond acting to universal truths about authentic living and personal growth.
The conversation takes a powerful turn when Sara discusses her book "Living Cancer Free," which explores the various "cancers" that can affect our lives—toxic thoughts, destructive relationships, soul-crushing jobs, and harmful lifestyles. "These things can have death knocking at our door long before we actually ever take our last breath," she explains. Her message emphasizes not just awareness of these negative influences, but the courage required to make meaningful changes.
Throughout the episode, Sara shares practical advice on navigating the entertainment industry, including why newcomers shouldn't rush to join the Screen Actors Guild, how to handle rejection, and the importance of viewing yourself as both the product and CEO of your personal brand. Her current work on multiple film projects demonstrates her commitment to storytelling and inspiring others.
Sara leaves listeners with a powerful call to action: "If there's something calling you, something from your intuition, do not ever silence that. Listen greater and follow it, because it's not going to go away." Listen now and discover how breaking free from society's expectations might be your first step toward living authentically.
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Welcome to Outlaw Wisdom. Outlaw Wisdom Coming up next Drew goes toe-to-toe with In a one-on-one interview about life, love and everything in between. Join Sarah as she shares personal stories and reveals how she conquered her worst fears, overcame life-altering challenges, speaks in great detail about her inspirational book Living Cancer-Free and shares memorable moments on her journey as an actress in Hollywood.
Drew Glick:Welcome, Sarah. We really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us and to tell the listeners all about yourself.
Sara Quiriconi:I'm very excited to be here today and to storytell.
Drew Glick:You are a actor, writer and entrepreneur. Is that correct?
Sara Quiriconi:That is correct. Yes, ever since I was younger, I was a born actor. I was always playing, always creating make-believe dressing up, creating stories in my mind but then acting them out in different wardrobes, and creating scenes in my backyard, and always playing.
Drew Glick:What was your favorite part to play?
Sara Quiriconi:The funny thing is I was kind of like a fill-in today. I was so much the tomboy but also the perilous princess, the leading princess, where I would play a lot in the Disney characters and dressing up and at the same time I would also be dressing up as Indiana Jones and I would have the satchel and the hat. It's a little bit of a miscongeniality but at the same time, a strong Angelina Jolie character that has beauty, but then levels and levels and levels of depth that you can uncover and put into all these different characters. When I was in college, you could take electives and within those electives there were always artsy classes. They're always different performance classes, so it's.
Sara Quiriconi:But I felt at the time that it wasn't a career, that I needed to get a job in the corporate world and check that box off and live the American checkbox dream. When, in reality, I started to check those boxes off and realized how lost I was from who I really am, because I didn't know who I was I was just going according to this guide box of check this, check this, check that and you are going to live a happy American life, and I got probably three quarters down the check box and I'm like I don't resonate with any of this and this definitely doesn't feel like me. I've seen this before, but this definitely doesn't resonate with me. And that's when I started to unravel myself, to unravel the outskirts of what the life I started to construct right, right, and I I'm over the course of this podcast.
Drew Glick:I've I've mentioned this more, I don't know, I've probably sound like a broken record. I've said that people need to stay true to themselves and it's, it's. I'm happy to hear you say that. Do you feel that that helped you to not fall into that like nuclear family setting and be kind of, allow your life to be dictated by society?
Sara Quiriconi:yes, and I think a big part of that was trying that avenue and then realizing how much that didn't work and unraveling myself in many self-destructive patterns. But that also led me later to wanting to figure out who I am and doing all of this self-discovery and showing up every day, especially today, doing the work, because the more I know myself, the better I can show up as an actor to do justice to these characters. Because if I don't know myself, how can I embody any other character? I'll just get lost and wrapped up in you know what I think it needs to be, as opposed to just embodying, and I feel it's.
Sara Quiriconi:It can be, it can be an easy thing to fall into what looks like from the outside, because you look to the outside and society, or what most people do, or people from your hometown, what they did, and it can look like this is okay, this is, this is the, the rule book, this is the guide, this is the math of what I'm, what I need to do. And the easy thing is to say this is how, this is what I'm going to do, I'm going to do what everybody else did and I will be safe. But safe is comfortable, comfortable, does not allow you to grow, being uncomfortable, tapping in and really questioning a lot of things that are supposed to be that have to do. Should all of those? Those are the words that I question. It's like oh, who is they? Who said you should do this? Who is they? Because? Then I get really, really opposed if I'm told I should. It's like who's that? Who said that?
Drew Glick:because I didn't say that you think that it's easier to follow, as you said, the rule book or to follow your own path?
Sara Quiriconi:Oh, I think it can be both. It can be easier short term to follow the rule book. To follow the rule book long term is setting yourself, I believe, up for failure, or at least to be very empty. So, in the long term, even though it might take a little longer to get there, staying true to yourself, allowing that your internal compass to guide you, I won't say that that is the easiest path, but I do think it'll be the most rewarding and fulfilling in the long term.
Drew Glick:But I do think it'll be the most rewarding and fulfilling in the long term. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. I've made the statement numerous times, both in my books and on this episode, that people just don't know who they are, and I think that kind of ties into what you're saying. I've made the argument that if people could just follow their own path and I know Sam has also said this as well it may be hard at times but, as you said, it will lead you down the right path eventually. Maybe not initially, maybe you'll have some hardships and struggles, but sooner or later you will come to that place that you feel content in your life and happy with what you do and who you are. Do you agree with that?
Sara Quiriconi:yes, absolutely, absolutely okay. So otherwise you're just searching outside to answer what's within right, it's just like you're living in a shell.
Drew Glick:You're just, you know, kind of in an empty shell of you know, you know there's no light at the end of the tunnel, right? Exactly yeah, so sarah, tell me some tell me a little bit about your struggles. You know there's no light at the end of the tunnel, right, Exactly yeah.
Sara Quiriconi:So, Sarah, tell me some tell me a little bit about your struggles.
Sara Quiriconi:How much time?
Drew Glick:do we have? We have as much time as you want, but, um, give me, give me one example of something that you know has been a struggle. Maybe even today, it's sort of like it's still in the back of your mind and you're maybe have a little bit of regret, or maybe you feel it could have been done differently, the outcome could have been better. Where would you start? What would you say?
Sara Quiriconi:Coulda, woulda, shoulda. You know there's. Where do I begin? I was just working. Today.
Sara Quiriconi:One of my most recent mantras is working on being rather than doing so. Going back to the checkbox metaphor, I created all of these internal rule books of how to operate, what to do, and they kept me safe for a very long period of time. In this career, in this industry entertainment, acting life in general there is no rule book, there is no checkbox and checklist. That's going to equate to eternal happiness and success, and the billboard that you want and the notoriety it's all coming within.
Sara Quiriconi:So one of the things that I'm currently working on to answer your question is that I don't have to earn my worth, that the energy I present is the currency, and that currency is far more valuable than a dollar amount because it's limitless. So what kind of energy? You know we're even exuding energy by sharing these stories, by sharing these messages. Is this going to impact somebody and how that kind of energy comes through? That's the currency, not necessarily of well, Drew, how much you pay me for this? Ok, OK, you're paying me for this, right? Ok, double Great, Thank you, and that's part of the work I've been doing. Drew is currently chuckling right now thinking I think I'm paying her.
Drew Glick:Well, you know, I'm paying you peanuts. You know that right.
Sara Quiriconi:Oh, I really prefer almonds over peanuts, but thank you.
Drew Glick:No, no, no, I don't do, I don't do almonds.
Sara Quiriconi:No, they're too. They're too fancy for you, or what?
Drew Glick:Yeah, Too expensive, too fancy for you, or what? Yeah, too expensive. So, Sarah, I know that, as I was, as we were developing this episode, I had a tendency to repeat myself a lot and I went on about people. You know a lot of people in today's society. They don't. They want success but they don't want to sacrifice. Do you agree with that, Saban?
Sara Quiriconi:I would say majority. Yes, everybody wants the view, but who's willing to make the clump? It's the way I like to put it.
Drew Glick:Right, and and you know, I know that you're a fellow writer and I I had this conversation with Sam and I he asked me, like why did I write the Wheelhouse? And my answer to that was that you know because I guess a lot of people have a misconception that I wrote that book because I was trying to, like, make money or have some kind of monetary value to my work, right, and I told him that, hey, I wrote that book for me because at the time it was therapeutic. And I tell our listeners that whatever you do in life, it needs to make you happy. Forget about everybody else. You know who cares. If your book sells one copy, a thousand, it doesn't matter, right?
Drew Glick:So for someone like you, for someone like you who's always out there, or, you know, for the mayor rather, I'll call you the mayor because I always call you the man you're always doing something. You got your hands in every pot when you do, when you put together, you know, a book or a video or anything that's creative. Can you tell everybody why you do it? What's what's, what is the motive behind why you get up out of bed every day and do what you do?
Sara Quiriconi:you know, when it comes to sharing a message, because I feel there's two parts in that. When it comes to sharing a message or creating something, there's a piece within me that wants to share whatever that energy, whatever that story, whatever that life lesson is with somebody else, and if that connects or resonates with one person, awesome. If it was therapeutic for me to get it out without harming anybody, then awesome, Because some people will put stuff out there that is just a verbal diarrhea, as they like to call it, and it does nobody any good and in the end it just soils the energy of media.
Drew Glick:Are you talking about me? Am I that guy that puts that shit out there that you know soils the media, because I'm always blasting people?
Sara Quiriconi:oh shit, that's what this is.
Drew Glick:Huh, this is a roast you call that slander, we call that slander I call it trademark.
Sara Quiriconi:I'm gonna sue you.
Drew Glick:Okay, those are jewish words I've said that to you many times, haven't? Yep? So, sarah, let's go into, let's go into your book. You, you wrote that book and I know that when I first met you, we, we compared it, and maybe it's not the right word, I don't want to compare it, but we, we talked about the wheelhouse and how it was very similar to your book.
Sara Quiriconi:Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead very relatable to the Wheelhouse because, in ways, we're storytelling real experiences and our interpretation of them, and it became a catharsis that I know your intentions were creating a film. My intention someday will be to create a film out of it, but the whole message of to share that story with others. It, but the whole message of to share that story with others, and the interesting thing with Living Cancer Free when I wrote that I finished it in 2018. Now my life from 2018 to now has tenfold 180, completely different, which is awesome and fascinating. But in some way, there's also this piece of me. I toil back and forth between wanting to rewrite, wanting to create a second part, wanting to tell a different narrative because so much has changed, but at the same time, I also just want to leave it and let it be and allow the story that has happened between then and now to just to just unfold in different ways, like not everything has to be put into a story. I'm also recognizing great.
Drew Glick:So talk about some of your acting. What was, I don't know. Maybe you don't recall, but what was the first acting job you had? It was a good or bad experience my first acting job.
Sara Quiriconi:I was a barista in a college short film when I was living in Boston at the time and it was so fun. It was just the whole dress up and I mean I love coffee, we love coffee.
Drew Glick:Life is better with coffee, right.
Sara Quiriconi:Exactly, and I remember that being one of the first, one of the first filmed pieces of work. I don't think I ever saw the final product, but that was one of the first things. It was a very positive experience. It was, I remember, just feeling at home, but yet out of place at the same time, because it was all different for me. I was so used to being in college and that whole different mindset, but it was so fun. I remember being there and just thinking this is really cool.
Drew Glick:Yeah, I know, I know that. You know I've tried to give some of my outlaw wisdom to listeners out there that want to pursue acting and entertainment and film and whatever else the case may be, and there's a lot of horror stories out there. And what advice would you give to somebody that wants to get into the business? What are the pitfalls, what to look out for? And just you know what words of advice can you give? I guess that's what I'm asking, right.
Sara Quiriconi:Is that what I'm?
Drew Glick:asking Sam.
Sara Quiriconi:What am I asking right now?
Sara Quiriconi:I would say to anyone who's wanting to get into this business know who you are the best you can. Learn as much as you can about yourself, because the better you know yourself, the better that you can make wiser decisions and choices. There are, yes, can be, a lot of pitfalls, but when you know who you are, you will make more aligned choices for your career, for the characters you take on, for how you show up to portray the character, your auditions on set, what you bring your professionalism. Remember it's a business and to not take everything personal to you. You'll take some things personal, but don't take everything personal because, at the end of the day, it is a business and it comes down to business decisions most of the time. And, yeah, it's, it's knowing yourself and to not take too much personal. If you love it, you're going to stick. You're going to stick with it If you love it. Right.
Drew Glick:And I think I think the only thing I would add into that statement, sarah, which I think a lot of people that get into the industry tend to overlook, is that you're selling yourself right Like you don't have anything tangible. It's not like you're selling coffee or you're at Walmart packing bags. I think it's important and maybe you don't agree, but hopefully you do that people remember that they're selling themselves. You do that people remember that they're selling themselves. So this kind of like goes into that gray area of like watching what you do on social media, watching what you say, how you say it, who you say it to.
Drew Glick:Right absolutely so have you ever encountered somebody like that? Have you ever come across somebody that doesn't or refuses to understand that they are the commodity?
Sara Quiriconi:of course I. For a while and I still have it active. I'm leading a business of actors workshop and the first thing we go into is you're the CEO of your business, you are the product, you're also the PR department, you're also the advertising department, you're also the R and D. You're all of those hats put together, but first and foremost, you, the actor, you are the product. And what is going to make a casting director, a director, a producer turn their head to say I want that product from the shelf, not all the 5,000 others that are out there doing submissions?
Sara Quiriconi:Yeah, but how do you handle rejection, which that happens a lot, right? Yeah, it goes trying for parts and never getting it, and they keep trying to keep trying get being rejected now well, there's two parts of it there.
Sara Quiriconi:I mean, I grew up in the creative field, as an art director early on, and in the arts one of the best things I learned was rejection you will, you, you know it's creative redirection. And I also learned to take constructive criticism, because some criticism are just people because we can swear on here, they're people being assholes and other criticism are people genuinely giving feedback that maybe turn an ear towards. So know who is giving the feedback and is it critical or is it constructive. And the other part of it is letting go of the expectation for the outcome. If you submit an audition for something and you expect to get it, you are immediately setting yourself up to fail, meaning you're setting such a high expectation that is pretty unrealistic and I'm all for having limitless beliefs.
Drew Glick:But at the same time, letting go of the expectation will create more joy in the moment of the actual art and craft right, right, and I mean I I remember and I don't know, sarah, I don't know if you ever came across this interview, but I remember I watched an interview with jennifer aniston one time and she might I can't remember the exact number of auditions, but I know it must have been like a thousand plus until she got a breakout role. Right. Doesn't mean that she didn't do other work. I mean she starred in leprechaun, okay, I mean that most people would be like oh, you're not.
Drew Glick:You're never gonna go nowhere. You're not fucking. Yeah, I mean, it was that movie, whatever you know. I mean, and just like you know, courtney cox got her started massive masses of the universe with, with dove lundgren, right? So in words, I think what I'm getting is like everybody got to start somewhere, but again, with, like your comment, it's got to be realistic because at the end of the day and I don't know how many people have ever heard this, but only 1% of people that go into the industry will ever succeed, right. But again, I think success is determined by your own, your own, you know. I think people determine their own success, right.
Drew Glick:So what is this? What level of success makes somebody happy? Is what I'm getting at, right, like I could be happy and successful selling one copy of my book? Somebody else may say, hey, I got to sell 10,000 copies before I feel like I'm successful, right? Yeah, I mean, do you feel that way? Like you know? I mean, I guess, sarah, what I'm asking you is like when you get I hate to use the word rejected, but when you get rejected from an audition, it doesn't crush you, right? Like you're not like ready to throw in the towel and go into another career, right? You just move on and you know you just take it with a grain of salt and you're waiting for the next opportunity, right?
Sara Quiriconi:Yes, and I'll take time as well and look at some of my auditions. I see the ones that book me roles and then I'll see some that I will take a reflection moment and look through some of them and I can tell what's working and what's not, where it's falling flat. And then that's where I also lean on coaches and I have support. Fortunately, I'm in classes, I have acting coaches and I can say you know, here's what I'm working on. Do you see where I can improve or what can we work on today? Because there's also a learning element that never ends.
Sara Quiriconi:No matter what path you're on, there's always you know it's one of my tattoos in Italian, ancora in paro and always learning, and that beginner's mind approach can make everything awe-inspiring and incredible. And at the same time then you're in a far more playful mood, as opposed to going in and like, okay, I have to get this out, because people can smell desperation. They can smell when you are desperate to get something or you're afraid. They will smell that in the audition unless it's a horror film and you need to look afraid it's not going to come across good yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, I remember I told Sam a story about a young guy I mentored back in the day.
Drew Glick:He wanted to break into stunts and you know, he finally did it and he and he became really successful. And he and his mother told me one time hey, drew, thank you everything, thank you for everything you've done for my son. I said, look, I didn't do nothing for your son. All I did was give him the one thing he was missing, which is confidence. And I think people that go into the industry, like like you said, sarah, have to first get to that, that place in their own head, in their own body, where they're comfortable in their own skin. And because, if, if, they can't go into an audition, you know, with that vibe and like you said, people are going to feel it, the casting director is going to feel it and once they smell weakness, that's it.
Sara Quiriconi:They don't want you Absolutely.
Drew Glick:You know it's survival of the fittest out there in Hollywood. They don't call Hollywood cutthroat for nothing, right, sarah?
Sara Quiriconi:It's 100% and it's who's who's gonna stick around. You know you hang around the barbershop long enough, you're gonna get a haircut and he was denzel who said that. But oh, you can't just pack up shop, because year one you didn't get your sad card and, you know, land in a role next to brad pitt. It's just not the way it can very rarely.
Drew Glick:But we both know, Sarah, that it's not wise to get into SAG day one of your career. We know that's a bad choice, right.
Sara Quiriconi:Absolutely, yes, absolutely. We've had that conversation before.
Drew Glick:Sam, just asked you why. Let's hear from your perspective, sarah.
Sara Quiriconi:Yes. So when you are, when you're a sag, you then can no longer take part in any other non-union projects. What that does is it puts you in a very high level playing field that if you have zero credits, it is also going to be 10 times more challenging to ever earn any credits to your name. Therefore, can you take the time to build the craft, to build some of the credits with shorts, with student films, with creating some of your own films or one of your friends that you want to star in so you actually get some set time because you have zero set time?
Sara Quiriconi:It's very challenging to convince a producer who's spending 60 million dollars budgeted feature to then put an unknown day player, which is somebody who will do one day's work on a feature and trust that they're actually going to know what they're going to do, without ogling at stars or be stuck at crafties or just never show up on time. They're not going to have much faith in you. But if you have a proof of the work you've done, you've then proven that you are capable, professional, will show up, that you actually know what you're doing and you're going to remember your lines and show up and do your job for the day. It's like you wouldn't walk into Goldman Sachs and ask to be their lead trader. You need to work your way up. Same thing in acting.
Drew Glick:And this brings me back to a conversation I had with you, Sam, earlier today. I talked about tenure, right? So I made a comment I'm going to get my tenure in a year, Sam, because it's 10 years in California, right? I'm going to get my tenure in a year, Sam, because it's 10 years in California, right? So I think that what I, my advice to people out there would be that put your time in. You know, don't, don't be so, don't be so eager to get to the top of the mountain right away, because you're just going to fall back down. But do you agree with that statement, Sarah? Do you think that's?
Sara Quiriconi:important.
Drew Glick:You do.
Sara Quiriconi:Absolutely, because then you're working your way into and you also build confidence in yourself. When you have confidence in yourself, you will. It goes back to the energy you will show. You will showcase that energy and it's that energy that is magnetic on camera, with other actors, with all the other crew that's on set. That makes the biggest difference.
Drew Glick:Right, yeah, exactly. You took the words right out of my mouth, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi:So it limits you ahead of time, but if you already have a background, then it'll give you wings afterwards. Exactly, yes, exactly.
Drew Glick:Yeah. So all right, sarah, tell me about. Tell me about Call of Duty. I want to know about Call of Duty. What did you do on Call of Duty again?
Sara Quiriconi:I was on the poster cover as Dr Gray.
Drew Glick:Which one was it again, the six Black Ops, six.
Sara Quiriconi:Yes, exactly, black Ops six.
Drew Glick:And you and you, and I don't want to, I don't want to use the word model, but you modeled for that one.
Sara Quiriconi:Is that what that was? Yes, technically, I showed up on the day of production. We didn't know what it was. It was more so untitled, they showcase the storyboards, and then I don't know a whole lot about video games, but I I know Call of Duty, and seeing what they were doing, I was like, wow, this is, this is the real deal, and it was a day of learning both proper weaponry tactics and then also just shooting all day different. There there are all photos that they later then framed into, I think, a few different promos like POP posters and such. So I was Dr Samantha gray for that.
Drew Glick:Hmm, hmm. Now when you say shooting, you weren't, it wasn't live fire, was it, was it blank, so was it just like empty barrels?
Sara Quiriconi:No empty. Yeah, everything was fully empty. Everything was checked, everything was incredibly professional.
Drew Glick:Yes, that's good. You had a good problem, master, on that one. So all right, look. So now we got to bring it forward. We got to talk some shit right now, and we got to talk some shit about me oh fun. So you and I have known each other what? Four or five years? No, then yes yes okay, so so tell the people how you met me, was you know, and, and what your first impressions of me were you are well, I've now come to know you as the sweetest asshole you are by the way, nobody out there can use that shit all right, everybody's using it people gonna get sued, fuck them it's no knowledge.
Drew Glick:Now you are a fighter wait, hold on you see how she had to think about that. She kind of paused.
Sara Quiriconi:I was still going to say the sweetest asshole.
Sara Quiriconi:I was going to say the sweetest asshole, again I. You are a fighter on the outside, a heart on the inside, with a wise mind that wants to share that wisdom to whoever has open ears to hear it. There's not a lot of people have open ears let's do good.
Sara Quiriconi:Come on spill the beans. So now, sarah, how do we meet though?
Drew Glick:well, well, I can't remember how do we meet, though. Well, I can't remember how did we meet. What was it that? Was it an ad or a posting, or something like that?
Sara Quiriconi:Yes, it was. What was was Mandy. That is now, I think, owned by IMDb and it was a listing for this character. Can we name names of characters?
Drew Glick:Yes, go for it.
Sara Quiriconi:Vanessa, vanessa, it was. I remember I submitted to it. Jeez, it was so long ago. I was actually living in Miami at the time and it was this a headshot photo. I was in a denim jacket, pretty but still a little roughed up, and we got, I believe, in the submission notes I wrote how I appreciated that this was based on a true story of redemption, resilience, and how I resonated with the story and message similar to my book. And then from there we did a couple reads, some rehearsals at the time, but that's initially how it started. It was through that submission right.
Drew Glick:Yeah, I mean we the project got stalled. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to blame, I'm not trying to point fingers and put blame, you know, I mean, well, we got to say that, we got to say it, sam. We got to say it got stalled because of what? Sarah covet right I, I thought you were just being lazy. Yeah, that's that. Everybody blames, cover for everything.
Sara Quiriconi:My call breaks down tomorrow. I'm blaming covet yeah, that or the full moon.
Drew Glick:One of the two so now, recently, what a month, month and a half ago, whatever we started, you started training with stunts, with for the, the second episode of the limited series that you referenced briefly, and having the experience with the call of duty and going to that was it. I guess. What I want to ask you was it easier of a transition? Was it easier to come into that like kicking and punching and falling, or was it still all kind of new to you? Were you still kind of like learning the body mechanics? Because I know, I know you sent me some pretty, some pretty belligerent text messages. You were like drew this motherfucker, you hurt me, you know, I mean, I'm sore as hell, right, you remember that? I remember I still got him as blackmail did I receive workman's comp for that?
Drew Glick:I forget that that's not, that's no longer so. Talk a little bit about that, so you know, and then we'll, and then we'll go and we'll talk about why you're doing those stunts.
Sara Quiriconi:But let's start with the, with the basics first I never sent those text messages for the record, but I do recall you sending me text messages saying I'm so sore from when you drop kicked me.
Drew Glick:No, jokes aside it was yeah, see, I still have my front teeth in. They haven't finished the plate yet.
Sara Quiriconi:You'll get implants, it'll be fine.
Drew Glick:You're paying for that right.
Sara Quiriconi:No, it was under your insurance.
Drew Glick:Yeah right, what insurance? Kidding, kidding.
Sara Quiriconi:They don't cover anything anyway, the. So the fight training itself and the stunt training it was. It's very different, it's very hand-to-hand combat. Combat is very different from weaponry and handling, but it's also fascinating from a self-defense perspective and how important movement is within the body, what energy you give off, what, and then you take that and you, you learn technique and then transition it into who the character is. And so Vanessa being, without sharing too much, she's a scrappy and little fighter and she's small and can be delicate but also can be fierce, and that needs to come across in the fighting style. So you start to learn the proper constructs but then morph that into who this character is and that that's the next level and layer for where we are with the trainings and the stunt training you know, and this may this may sound weird, but I'm really looking forward to the day that sarah cracks me over the head with a breakaway bottle.
Drew Glick:That's how the fight starts. That's good. No, not not the balls. We're not going there yet. But well, she's small.
Sara Quiriconi:Yeah, yeah, but I have an arm yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
Drew Glick:I think that's going to be a really interesting, you know, because because her character is an instigator and you know not to bring you back to day one, sarah, but you know you're going to be a barista this time. So you know, sadly, life works in circles, you know.
Sara Quiriconi:I'm a bartender.
Drew Glick:So now, now we haven't really talked about your book let's talk about that book, I mean, in more detail. Okay, I know you said the name. Let's, let's put it all out there, let's put the cards on the table, and let's let's, let's know, let's find out who Sarah really is table and let's, let's, let's know, let's find out who sarah really is.
Sara Quiriconi:Living cancer free is the title of the book, and what I allude to with that is there are many different cancers that one can come to terms with in their life. It's not just a physical cancer, but it's also the thoughts that we tell ourselves, the exercise or the lack of exercise and movement, the foods that we eat, the relationships that we stay in too long, the jobs that suck the life out of us all of those things that can be a cancer, that can have death knocking at our door long before we actually ever take our last breath. And can we be self actualized to realize that we need to make those changes and have the courage to do so? Because you can be aware that something needs to change. But then are you going to have the courage to actually make that happen and can you overcome those cancers? That's what I talk about through in my book and I've been through within the book. It shares my theory and thesis around cancers within the body, the life, the mind, spirituality, the environment, but then also my own life experiences through them. So it's yes, it's relationships, yes, it's career changes, it's eating disorders, it's alcoholism. It is real life cancer. It is later moving I didn't get there yet in the book, but finding all these different twists and turns, you know, in acting and in storytelling they're different acts they're, and in storytelling they're different acts, they're different beats, they're different notes, and that's what a lot of my life has been, these little pivots, and so I share and express all of that in this book, along the way and the lessons that I take, hmm, hmm, I want to ask you a personal question, sarah.
Drew Glick:Maybe I know like when I I went through the struggles, trials and tribulations, I had a very small, if any, support network, and I'm just curious to know you think, if I remember correctly, you had a pretty vast support network when you went through all this and you were trying to overcome this, right? So, in other words, I think like what I'm trying to get at is like you weren't alone in your struggles, right, like you didn't have to face these challenges every day on your own and try to figure it out.
Sara Quiriconi:You know better or worse um, in some ways yes and in some ways no. I allowed in what I allowed in and I also I, I'm sorry.
Drew Glick:I said I mean the road trip. I think what I'm. What I'm asking is uh, I know we all go into our own head and we try to work our work it out to the best of our ability externally. You know and I'm getting too personal you can tell me to shut up and kick rocks, right, but did you have family, siblings? You know anybody that really, I guess, continue to motivate you that, hey, you'll get through it, you can do it that were there for you when you needed them.
Sara Quiriconi:Well, at different points in my life, that's where I was getting to. So you can shut up and kick rocks. You can shut up and kick rocks because I was getting there. I'm a storyteller, lady B. This is free air time. I I should have been nauseous. I Italian talk here.
Sara Quiriconi:When I was going through cancer, I had a very small reach of support, but it was very deep. So it was my parents, my brother and then my at the time boyfriend. It was very deep. So it was my parents, my brother and then my at the time boyfriend. That was really it and perhaps it's. I was a little. Perhaps at that time I was hoping that I would have more, but it was what I had and it was deep and it was what the universe wanted to give me at that time.
Sara Quiriconi:Going through eating disorder alcohol. A lot of the time it was deep and it was what the universe wanted to give me at that time. Going through eating disorder alcohol. A lot of the time it was by myself because I closed myself off to a lot of others. And it wasn't until I was in my it was like mid-20s that I really started to open up and start to accept in some of the assistance and light and guidance that, oh, there's another way I could do this thing called life. And that's where I started to then tap into my relationship at the time, which was my first marriage and yoga community. I started getting really into yoga at that time to connect with myself, which allowed me to connect with others, and that started to open up more connections and allow for more support. But from there I've also noticed too how, over the years, groups of friends change, and that's OK too. That's OK too.
Drew Glick:So what do you want to nowadays? What's going on in your life?
Sara Quiriconi:I am Well looking forward to the next stunt training when I can crack that bottle over your head.
Drew Glick:Let's see, the first time we do it, I do it with a water bottle. I'm not putting a bottle in your hand the first time. I'm sorry, sure, remember, I only got one good eye, so you, I can't lose the other eye anymore.
Sara Quiriconi:So just look the other way, it'll be fine. I'm currently going to be a part of two additional indie films that I've recently booked. I am working on two short films, two features, a screenplay myself, and I mean there's always a couple projects that I'm also simultaneously working on producing. There's a lot of different balls being juggled, but always the intention to storytell and inspire others to live their best life, and mainly through acting, followed by writing and producing sounds good.
Drew Glick:This is why I call her the mayor. Yeah, girl, never sits. Still, you can't, you know, always in a meeting, always in a meeting. Gotta tighten those reins a little bit, you know or a podcast interview exactly so, sarah, is there anything else you'd like to put out there?
Sara Quiriconi:if there's something calling you to a life that you can become in tune with, something from your intuition is calling to you. Do not ever silence that. Listen greater and follow it, because it's not going to go away. It will just be there for the rest of your life and it is your life, so do not settle and live it very good voice exactly exactly okay, sarah.
Drew Glick:Well, it was great having you and we really appreciate your time and we will keep tabs on you and hopefully see you in the next big blockbuster please do, please do and we'll see you soon for the stunts.
Sara Quiriconi:Where can people?
Drew Glick:get your book.
Sara Quiriconi:Every bit of resource. It's on Amazon. It is Seriously. I went to go buy toothpicks earlier. I'm like Amazon, it's just easier. Why am I going to drive up to CVS? You can find the book on Amazon in softcover, ebook and now Audible. You can also find all of my information on my website, sarahkirikonicom.
Drew Glick:Great great, and you have IMDb right If people want to look you up.
Sara Quiriconi:Absolutely. I have that little fancy. I forget what they call it the vanity, the vanity.
Drew Glick:Oh, you got the vanity. Oh, she's got the vanity I do you got to be in the to get that one man.
Sara Quiriconi:I know my nose is up there, trust me girl.
Drew Glick:No joke, don't sleep on, sarah, man. Well, it was great talking to you, sarah. Look forward to seeing you again. Yes, we really appreciate your time. We really appreciate your time. We really appreciate your time.
Sara Quiriconi:Yeah.
Drew Glick:And that's about it.
Sara Quiriconi:Thank you both Appreciate it. Glad to share and inspire others to the message.
Sara Quiriconi:Thank you, sarah. Thank you, sarah, nice talking to you.
Drew Glick:Bye-bye, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi:Okay, bye.
Sara Quiriconi:Bye, bye-bye, sarah. Okay, bye, bye. Yeah, still on. No, she's off.
Drew Glick:What happened? You didn't like it. No, it was good. I mean, the beginning was a little stutter-stepping, but we got into it yeah, yeah, yeah. We did 45 minutes, no, a little under 40. 40 minutes excellent, so you don't have to cut too much yeah, yeah, yeah it's good. I mean you think we covered pretty much what we covered last time.
Sara Quiriconi:She was more relaxed this time too.
Drew Glick:Oh really, yeah it was better than we did another one.
Sara Quiriconi:See, everything happens for a fucking reason a lot clearer and more subtle enough room to talk and not worry about time and whatever, because at the beginning it's like we wanted eight minutes, where now you can have the whole yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, people like it like it. They know actors gonna listen to it. Young is yeah yeah, depends on what you care about. You know the interview with yeah yeah, yeah yeah, which is good. Yeah, no, no, that's awesome. She was very relaxed, that's good.
Drew Glick:I'm glad you thought so. Queer or con? It only took me 10 times to fucking figure out how to say the motherfucker. You keep saying queer or con. That's a guy, that's because that's. I mean. Look, that's how I said it for five fucking years. I mean I'm like Sarah, what the fuck you didn't fucking, why can't I end the motherfucker though. Oh, here we go. Okay, so now we got to bring it forward. We got to talk some shit right now and we got to talk some shit about me. Tell the people how you met me and what your first impressions of me were.
Sara Quiriconi:You are.
Drew Glick:Wait, hold on. Do you see how she had to think about that?
Drew Glick:you've been listening to outlaw wisdom.
Sara Quiriconi:New episodes drop every week until next time, no retreat, no surrender stay strong.
Drew Glick:Spread the word. The outlaws are here to stay.
